THIS MUST BE READ CLOSLEY Directly to the reader. I get this all the time. I mean all my life there has been serious discussion on measurement of firewood.
here goes.
first and foremost. a cord is a stack of wood in 8ft lengths. repeat. eight foot lengths. these logs will be in a rack if you will. four 4 ft high and 4 four feet wide. this equates to approx 4,500 lbs of wood.
and this is the only cord there is.
I am going to compare it to a loaf of bread.. once you slice it and toast it. you dont order a loaf of toast. its by the slice then there after.
thats a cord. thats what I call it. if you talke to me. that is what I am referring to.
NOW TO how much wood is in a cord.. average guy will cut and split it into loaf of bread size pieces and stack it up. there are approx 2 .25 stacks of cut and split wood if it is stacked 4 ft high and 8 ft long, in other words a ten cord is going to cut up to 22.5 stacks of cut and split wood.
this is where the argument starts. and everyone cuts and splits it different. the farmers alminack said it the best. cut and split wood should be stacked loose enough that a mouse can crawl through it but tight enough so a cat cant get him. does this help.( THIS IS HOW I DO IT, YOU MUST ASK THE NEXT SELLER HOW HE DOES IT.)
sooooooooooooooooo every one stacks wood different. some like air to blow through. some want a solid wall of wood and take great pains to stack it that way.
my grandmother used to bake bread. home made bread that was absolutely awesome with tunafish. she could make a dozen sandwiches with a loaf of her bread. my cousin wood come in and take that exact same loaf of bread the make 4 sandwiches. thats right. 4 and two cans of tuna. wellllllllllllll think about it. same same. how ya slice and dice it. whooze rite.
people make this serious mistake taking the 4x4x8 ft formula and calculating 128 cubic feet out of it and then extrapulating that into three stacks of wood 4 ft high and 8 ft long,
well i am here to tell you this. we use this exact same trailer to deliver cut and split wood and we stack it on there in rows. same trailer. same height. guess what approx 24 rows. weighs the same. NOT 30
every time I talk to a guy who is looking for a new wood supplier i ask where was he buying from. why not continue with that guy ect ect. when I pick up on the fact that the guy is under the total believe that every wood guy is only delivering 8 cord loads and he is expecting 30 stacks out of a load. i immediately know he is using the three stack equasion for a cord. when I tell him that the last 4 wood guys that have ripped him off were ok and it was his mistaken measurment conversion. and that I am going to do the exact same thing. only difference is that I am telling him up front that there is no way in hell he is going to get 30 piles that size from a load from me either.
I GET THIS MANY TIMES. I ASK THE GUY TO DO HIS HOME WORK AND GET BACK TO ME, THEY HARDLEY EVER DO. THEY HAVE A MIND SET THAT ITS 3 AND THE DEVIL BE DAMMNED IF HE IS CHANGING HIS MIND.
if you want 30 stacks that size. I must bring you at least 12 and to be on the safe side 13 cord wood be better. this is a fact. been to court a few times. make it a point now to make shure you as a customer knows this. that there is approx 85 cubic feet of wood in a cord. thats right. not 128 but (85 )and if you are buying 8 ft wood from a supplier and are processing this and re selling. major problem. by the time you discover that you are selling wood with the 3 number and buying it using the 2.25 number better wake up. if you are reading this and know of a guy dointit. print this out and give this to him. hundreds and hundreds of guys have made this serious mistake. a financial disaster awaits those guys. ( and when the economy goes south here they come asking all the questions, this webb page has thinned that crowd down a lot..) not stupid; just didn’t know. this is the facts here. i am not trying to see you anything but give you the information you really need to make a good judge ment call. this is the spriit of this webb page
did this help? How I do this. like the blog says. communication communication. communication. told the guy in howell. big truck. might crak cement. did. him not happy. I do not do driveways well. but i communicated that. he took the chance. this is your choice. you are the customer. you gotta get informed and remember what you read. all of it. not just the part you want to hear.( many people read what they want to read) trust me on this one.
I get this a lot. guy talkes to me. I am telling him all about this wood stuff. ok. actually do the order thing. he has read and liked the wood I am doing but somehow gets the price from the cheaper guy. I show up. oh oh.. whats up. he was liking the cheap price but was talking to the wood guy. I am NOT the cheap guy. he makes his money twisting the numbers and blowing smoke up your skirt. there are so many of these jerks that tell people stuff just to jack them up. and you as a customer have no way to tell the difference. I use pictures. that does it. ya like what ya see sailor its 2 bksif not. there is another girl next door. some of these guys that go for the cheap price actually need each other. I totally love it. ( i know this sounds a little off the wall but you gotta know i am 65, on my last legs. aint long for me and i dont have time for bull shit. its the facts son. straight on facts. if you are a lady reading this i hope you can get through it ok.
I delivered a load to frankfort. early. was dark. the guy was a meat cutter in a grocery store. I pulled up. he came out and looked at the load. said. well you are way early. go take the other guy his half and come back and i will be ready for mine. I looked at him and said. what other guy. you want me to give half of your wood to someone else. he said what do you mean. I said thats ten cord. thats all your wood. he stated swearing really bad words. i was kinda taken back thinking I had some something seriously wrong. he said nope. I have been buying half of that for ten cord.. had been for years.. how do you know what the hell ten cords is unless you see a real ten cord load. 34 ft long 5 ft high at least if you measure the length. like 40 ft it must be 4 ft high. 4×4 is 16 so for ten cord you need at least 160 square feet on aside. does this help
now here is what I do to really screw up the competition. and you are going to love this.
I try to get 11 on if at all possible. the producers i get wood from want you for a customer as I do. finding you and keeping you in todays economy is the hardest part. finding a good customer. trust me. there are a lot of them that I want to go to the cheap guy. anyway. the cheap guys put on 9 if you are luky. have seen lots of 8 cord loads that are called ten. well when 11 shows up at the neighbors and they walk by each others delivery and it is way obvious one is way bigger than the other guys. trust me. bigger is at this point in time better. oh yeah. now its a three cord difference.
soooooooooooo I inadvertently perpetuate and misconception of what 10 cord is by the way of diabolical because its a business decision to make sure you get for sure 10, every once in a while it gets to 12 and i tell you. dont expect this big a load next year because i dontwant your little lip hanging out because the load is littler. this can backfire on me also. spoiled customers can sometimes not know it. 9 i do have a few customers that pay attention and expect 11 every year and if its 10 it shows up big time. they just dont know.
I love it when they get the bit in their teeth and go find another wood guy. I drive by and see that pile of —- and chuckle to my self.. ya got what ya really want>>>or did someone else get what THEY really wanted. who had whooooo I just love it.
i call a rick a stack of wood 4 ft high and 8 ft long in 16 in pieces. a rick has three dimensions.
a face cord is simply the same size stack but no lengths. just the face of it. the wood could be 5 in long or two feet long. dont matter. its a face of the pile. 28 sq ft. not cubic. square.
we sell processed wood also. here are a couple pics of our pallets
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I thank all of you for your attention, your business and it is a awesome day when i meet a new customer that has read all this drivvel. they totally understand what is going on and communication is just great. it makes my life so much sweeter.. i delivered a load to a guy that had a nursery and i was talking to the son. the grampa was sitting there when the internet got brought up. he started in saying it was full of porn. child molesters. ect ect ect. even mentioned whores. i said. oh dad. i gotta stop you at whores. you do know i met your son on the internet. thats how he ordered this wood here in the middle of the winter when you couldn’t get any absolutely any where else.. then i said. you mentioned some very undesirable people that we could be but i assure you i am not a child molester. crack head. ect ect. when you threw in whore. well i know what i am. i am like everyone else. i am just debating the price. eee eee eee the kids and even his wife was laughing their asses off. isnt that funny. the old man shook my hand and said. you are right. i apologize. shouldnt have called you a whore. eeee eeee eeeeee oh my god. its been 20 years and it is still funny as hell.
you know i started this webb site in about 80. we are number one on google search for firewood. ??? al